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m I thought the stats below the weapon image was another image, turns out it isn’t. Updated stats.
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New update (this one had a lot of changes, I probably missed something)
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| used-by=Demoman
| used-by=Demoman
| slot=Secondary
| slot=Secondary
| ammo-loaded=3
| ammo-loaded=4
| ammo-carried=24
| ammo-carried=24
| reload=Single
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{{Loadout negative|Stickies fizzle on a detonation attempt}}
{{Loadout negative|Stickies fizzle on a detonation attempt}}
{{Loadout negative|No Stickybomb charge time}}
{{Loadout negative|No Stickybomb charge time}}
{{Loadout negative|-5 max pipebombs out}}
{{Loadout negative|-4 max pipebombs out}}
{{Loadout negative|-67% clip size}}
{{Loadout negative|-50% clip size}}
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{{Loadout neutral|"Aye, keep an eye out! Heh..."}}
{{Loadout neutral|"Aye, keep an eye out! Heh..."}}
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The '''Mine Layer''' is an alternative secondary weapon for the Demoman. It appears similar to the [[Stickybomb Launcher]], except with a cylindrical magazine, a circular ejection port, and a large metal chassis with yellow warning paint on its side. The paint appears yellow regardless of which team the user is on.
The '''Mine Layer''' is an alternative secondary weapon for the Demoman. It appears similar to the [[Stickybomb Launcher]], except with a cylindrical magazine, a circular ejection port, and a large metal chassis with yellow warning paint on its side. The paint appears yellow regardless of which team the user is on.


Instead of the Stickybomb Launcher's manually detonated stickybombs, the Mine Layer fires proximity mines that take 0.7 seconds to become armed, and will explode after an additional 0.4 seconds when an enemy player, or its own wielder, exists within their detonation radius. This includes shooting mines at an enemy, whether or not the mines are in mid-air. Disguised enemy [[Spy|Spies]] do not detonate the mines. If shot [[water|underwater]], the mines will have significantly reduced velocity, but will explode as normal. The mines have the same damage and splash radius as regular stickybombs. As a penalty, the weapon only holds 3 mines in its clip, and can only have 3 mines out at a time.
Instead of the Stickybomb Launcher's manually detonated stickybombs, the Mine Layer fires proximity mines that take 0.7 seconds to become armed, and will explode after an additional 0.4 seconds when an enemy player, or its own wielder, exists within their detonation radius. This includes shooting mines at an enemy, whether or not the mines are in mid-air. Mines cannot stick to walls, and a mine will bounce off the wall onto the floor once shot. Disguised enemy [[Spy|Spies]] do not detonate the mines. If shot [[water|underwater]], the mines will have significantly reduced velocity, but will explode as normal. The mines have the same damage and splash radius as regular stickybombs. As a penalty, the weapon only holds 4 mines in its clip, and can only have 4 mines out at a time.


The weapon's alternate fire does not detonate the mines, instead causing them to fizzle out without an explosion. If the user attempts to deploy another mine when three are already out, the oldest one placed will fizzle. If the user dies, all mines placed will fizzle. Unlike the Stickybomb Launcher's stickybombs, the user can see their own mines through solid walls. The mines have a flashing light and make a quiet beeping sound, warning enemies of their presence, and make a louder beeping sound when they are about to explode. An enemy can avoid a mine explosion by walking into its detonation radius, then walking away before it explodes. The explosion radius is 20% larger than the detonation radius. Mines shot at enemies will not stick to them, instead bouncing off and landing on the ground.
The weapon's alternate fire does not detonate the mines, instead causing them to fizzle out without an explosion. If the user attempts to deploy another mine when four are already out, the oldest one placed will fizzle. If the user dies, all mines placed will fizzle. The mines have a flashing light and make a quiet beeping sound, warning enemies of their presence, and make a louder beeping sound when they are about to explode. An enemy can avoid a mine explosion by walking into its detonation radius, then walking away before it explodes. The explosion radius is 20% larger than the detonation radius. Mines shot at enemies will not stick to them, instead bouncing off and landing on the ground.


Because the mines are triggered when the user walks into their radius, they can be used to explosive jump like regular stickybombs. Mine jumping deals significantly less damage than Sticky Jumping, with the Demoman being able to tank more than 3 mines, compared to him dying instantly when attempting a triple Stickybomb jump. This is no longer possible to perform in regular TF2C servers however, due to the max mines placed is limited to 3 in the latest update.  
Because the mines are triggered when the user walks into their radius, they can be used to explosive jump like regular stickybombs. Mine jumping deals significantly less damage than Sticky Jumping, with the Demoman being able to tank more than 3 mines, compared to him dying instantly when attempting a triple Stickybomb jump.


== Properties ==
== Properties ==
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  | self-damage = 45-90
  | self-damage = 45-90
| ammo-column = true
| ammo-column = true
  | loaded = 3
  | loaded = 4
  | carried = 24
  | carried = 24
  | reload-type = Single
  | reload-type = Single
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➖ Unable to detonate mines manually
➖ Unable to detonate mines manually
➖ Can only have 3 mines active at a time instead of 8
➖ Can only have 4 mines active at a time instead of 8
➖ Disguised Spies can walk near mines without detonating them
➖ Disguised Spies can walk near mines without detonating them
➖ Unable to launch mines further due to lack of charge
➖ Unable to launch mines further due to lack of charge
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{{Update|2.2.3}}
{{Update|2.2.3}}
* Reduced maximum active mine count to 3 (from 6)
* Reduced maximum active mine count to 3 (from 6)
{{Update|3.0.0}}
* Mines no longer stick to walls
* Increased Mine size by 25%
* Mine detection radius and detonation timer increased
* Demomen can no longer see their mines through walls
* Increased max mines and ammo capacity to 4 (from 3)
* Note: We are still experimenting with this item, but these changes were positive in most iterations. They made mines more predictable and gave players more tools to remove them, which made falling for a trap feel much more fair.
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